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the consequences would be that you would bring to bear on north korea should there be a rocket launch in terms of the overall relationship but also specifics such as food aid and negotiations and also i'm wondering, sir, if you could give us insights about whether you've developed an impression of north korea's new leader and whether you've been able to yet take a measure of the man and to president lee, good to see you again. i wanted to ask you about the nuclear security summit. can you explain how it would have any true and lasting credibility when the two major antagonists of north korea and iran are on the sidelines? >> well, first of all, with respect to the consequences should there be a launch, by the north korean, as president lee indicated north korea is already under an extraordinary battery of sanctions. they are the most isolated country in the world. they are cut off from basic
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commerce and exchanges beyond their borders that every other country -- almost every other country takes for granted. their people are extraordinarily impoveri impoverished, the contrast between living standards in the north and south could not be greater and could not be a greater testimony to the benefits of living in a free society. and so the real consequence should they go forward with the launch is they will have missed an opportunity because what we presented to them and what we've consistently presented to them is an opportunity for them to take a different path than the one they've been taking which is resulting in not simply hardship for their people, but a state
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that is decades behind their counterparts in the region in terms of development, in terms of economic strength, in terms of influence in world affairs. and so immediate concrete, tangible effects, we had offered them. the possibility as part of a measure of measures such as a nutritional aid package and indicated to them directly because this was part of discussions that had taken place among negotiators that it would be difficult to move forward with that package if they show themselves unable to make commitments that they've made even a month earlier.
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because part of the challenge of any new triggs aid is you make sure it gets to the people that need it and it doesn't go to serve elites in that country or their military. that requires monitors. it's very difficult to have monitors through a period of tension and friction. and it is difficult to provide aid if you don't think it's going to get to the people that actually need it. so that's just one example of the kinds of consequences that will take place. i'll also note that every time north korea has violated international resolution, security council resolution it's resulted in further isolation, tightening of sanction, stronger enforcement, greater support on the part of the international community for a stronger enforcement. i suspect that will happen this time, as well. so they need to understand that
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bad behavior will not be rewarded. there have been a pattern, i think, for decades in which north korea thought that if they acted provocatively then somehow they would be bribed into ceasing and desisting acting provocatively and president lee and i have agreed from the start of our relationship that we're going to break that pattern. and i suspect that it will ultimately end up have iing the impact intended but in the meantime, it's the people in north korea that are most likely to suffer. i do want to comment on the issue you raised with respect to the nuclear security summit. understand that the nuclear number see wet up was not
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directed at the specific issue of iran or north korea. but was directed at one leg of a multi-legged stool when it comes to our nuclear security. specifically if you've got a lot of loose nuclear material, if country countries either historically because of old nuclear programs or currently in terms of how they operate their nuclear energy facilities are leaving a bunch of material out will that could potentially fall in the hands of terrorists. that poses an extraordinary threat to the united states, to south korea and to countries all around the world. and so our goal with this nuclear security summit has always been to be very specific, concrete around a set of issues that if we act with some
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deliberateness can actually enhance everybody's security and should not be controversial. and it's a testament i think to that well-defined agenda that two years later we're seeing all these deliverables take place that are taking a whole bunch of nuclear material out of vulnerable positions that could fall into the wrong hands. it doesn't solve every problem. it doesn't address every issue that i raised in my prague speech 3 1/2 years ago. we still have issues of how can we reduce nuclear weapons among those countries that currently have nuclear weapons. consistent with the long-term obligations of the mpt. we still have outliars like iran and north korea that are potentially pursuing nuclear weapons and that pose a
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significant danger and are engaging in potential nonproliferation activities but that doesn't diminish in any way the concrete work that's gotten done here. that is significantly reducing the risk that an al qaeda or a terrorist organization could get a dirty bomb and explode it in seoul or new york city. and that's always been the objective of the nuclear security summit and i think that because of the fine leadership that's been shown by president lee and his delegation we're going to see a whole bunch of concrete stuff get done over the next two days. oh. you know, i think it's hard to have an impression of kim jong-un because in part it appears unsettled. it's not clear exactly who is calling the shots and what their long-term objectives are.
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but regardless of the north korean leadership, what is clear is that they have not yet made that strategic pivot where they say to themselves, what we're doing isn't working. it's leaving our country and our people down a dead end. and you were there at the dmz and it's like you're in a time warp. it's like you're looking across 50 years into a country that has missed 40 years or 50 years of progress. a and, you know, if a country can't feed its people effectively, if it can't make anything of any use to anybody, if it has no exports other than
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weapons, and even those aren't ones that in any way would be considered state-of-the-art, if it can't deliver on any indicators of well-being for its people, then you'd think you'd want to try something different. i don't get a sense that they've made that decision yet. but my suspicion is at some point that's what the north korean people are going to be looking for and they do have that opportunity and when they make that decision, i know i speak for president lee, no one will welcome it more than we do because, you know, it is in our interests to see every country provide opportunity and prosperity for its people. but there's certain things that just don't work and what they're
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doing just doesn't work. >> translator: regarding the nuclear security summit, president obama just explained what kind of objectives that we want to achieve by holding the second nuclear security summit so i just want to add to what president obama said and say that during the seoul summit which begins tomorrow -- first of all, we're going to review the kind of progress we made back in washington, d.c. and then what we're going to do is we're going to make more pledges to reduce and eliminate nuclear materials. we are going to set up more concrete benchmarks and as a result of the seoul summit, we will be able to reduce and eliminate about 20,000 nuclear weapons that we still have about
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100,000 nuclear weapons left. this is a tremendous amount of nuclear weapons, but i have hope that as we continue to engage in this -- with this problem that we will be able to achieve and obtain a goal of a world without nuclear weapons and another important point that president obama also mentioned is that 50 plus leaders gathered here in seoul are going to be discussing how we can prevent nuclear materials and weapons from falling into the wrong hands. we are going to discuss how we can share intelligence and information so that we can prevent individuals and organizations from acquiring nuclear weapons. you can just only imagine the kind of work that will go into coming up with an agreement between 50 plus states, but nonetheless we share a common vision and a commitment and i'm confident that following the meeting in washington, d.c., the meeting that will start tomorrow
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will contribute to an enhancing our safety and security. mr. choy, question going out to president obama, mr. president, you just visited the dmz this morning, and today the north koreans are commemorating the 100th anniversary of the birth of kim il-sung and so they were having this big parade in north korea also celebrating the new leadership of kim jung-un. if you can visit your shouts about visiting the dmz and what you think about the leaders in north korea and second question has to do with extending the missile range of south korea. the south korean government's position is that since north korea has a capability of more than 3,000 kilometers in its
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missile range that's one reason why you hope to extend the missile range here in south korea, what are your thoughts on this? and what are some of the preconditions in order to resume the six-party talks? the last question was going out to president obama and president lee. >> you just asked three questions. it's hard to remember them all. well, the first question, i think, i basically answered my impressions with respect to the dmz and the north korean leadership. with respect to the issue of extending missile ranges i think president lee got it exactly right. we have this incredibly powerful alliance that is mul multidimensional. and involves a whole range of
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coordination, training activities, making sure that there's inneroperability with respect to various weapons systems and so all these issues are being discussed as we move forward to implementing the 2015 plan. and so there are no specific preconditions around or specific obstacles around the missile range issue, rather it's a broader question of what are the needs in order for us to fulfill our enduring goals around the alliance, and a lot of that is technical, a lot of it takes place not at the presidential level, but rather at the military level and, you know, we
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will continue to instruct our teams that they work closely together to ensure what is the ultimate outcome which is not any particular weapon system or any particular missile range but rather can we protect our people? can we make sure that the objectives of the alliance are achieved? with respect to the six-party talk, look, we've been very clear about this again and again. it's not that complicated. if the north koreans are serious about entering into six-party talks, they have to show that they are operating in good faith. at minimum that requires them suspending activities that right now clearly are contrary to previous obligations that they've made and international law. and when they do that, then we'll be able to sit down and
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resolve hopefully some of these longer-term issues. in the absence of that, it's hard to figure out how these discussions would be productive. and, frankly, you know, president lee and i both have a lot of things to do and so we try not to have our teams sit around tables talking in circles without actually getting anything done. and my hope is is that at some point the north koreans make the decision that it is in their interests to try to figure out how to feed their people and improve their economy rather than have big parades where they show off weapons.
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mark liner? >> thank you both. a question first for president obama. mr. president, in the past you've been particularly when frustrated with china on the issue of north korea not shy about telling president hu that the u.s. will do what's necessary to protect its national security interests. as you're meeting president hu tomorrow, i'm wondering what message will you give him regarding north korea? are you satisfied with the pressure that china has brought to bear on north korea. is there more they could be doing and is it realistic to think that if they pushed hard enough, they might persuade the north koreans not to go ahead with the satellite launch and question for president lee as long as my colleague asked president obama for his views on
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kim jung-un, i'd like to ask you your views. you live here, you've paid attention to north korea for longer than our president has, i dare say and i just wonder whether you think he is as the president suggested still in a very tenuous situation or whether you see him as really establishing quite some control? >> well, first of all, i look forward to my meeting with president hu tomorrow. obviously the issue of north korea will be one among a number of topics that we discuss. my communications with the chinese have been very consistent on this issue. it is my firm belief that it is in none of our interests to see either tension and instability on the peninsula and its not in anybody's interest to see a
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nuclearized peninsula. the chinese say they agree with that. the question then is given that they have more influence and closer diplomatic relations with north korea than any other country on earth, what are they doing to help guide or encourage north korea to take a more constructive approach and that certainly will be a topic of conversation. now, i am sympathetic to the fact that they share a border with north korea. they are deeply concerned about potential instability in that country and what ramifications it might have on china. and it is important to recognize that they have a broad range of
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equities when it comes to how they operate with north korea. given that they're neighbors. but what i've said to them consistently is rewarding bad behavior, turning a blind eye to deliberate provocations, trying to paper over these not just provocative words, but extraordinarily provocative acts that violate international norms, that that's not obviously wo working. so in the same way that north korea needs to do something new, if it actually wants to do right by its people, my suggestion to china is that how they communicate their concerns to
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north korea should probably reflect the fact that the approach they've taken over the last several decades hasn't led to a fundamental shift in north korea's behavior. and the irony, of course, is that during the last 20 years, china has leapt into the 21st century in part by abandoning some of the practices that north korea still clings to. you couldn't ask for a better model of the difference at least on the economic front that different policies have made. and, again, i believe china is very sincere that it does not want to see north korea with a nuclear weapon, but it is going to have to -- it is going to
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have to act on that interest in a sustained way and if it does, i think together between the south koreans, the japanese, the russians, the chinese and ourselves, i think we can have a real impact. >> translator: with regards to your question on kim jung-un, it's a difficult question. i think it's safe to say that it's rather premature for anyone to make any initial assessment or analysis of kim jung-un or have an accurate impression on kim jung-un and i think it's safe to say that the majority of north korean people are having a difficult job of assessing the new leader. so i don't think any leader
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around the world is going to give you a definitive impression or answer to your question but having said that, i initially did have a bit of an expectation that he will take a different path but his recent announcement was a source of disappointment, nonetheless, i will wait and see and give you a more definitive answer of my impression on kim jung-un and i think that will be more accurate. any new leader in north korea will have to understand that he cannot survive alone in this wore. in this day and age no country or people or leader for that matter cannot stand alone. it is imperative that all leaders in countries work together as a responsible member of the international community and this is the surest way to ensure a better life for the people of that country and if
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they do so, of course, including the republic of korea and the united states and many other members of the international community will help the north koreans realize a better life for their people. thank you very much. >> hello, i'm randi kaye, you've just been watching president obama making remarks during his stop there in south korea. he is there for a summit as you have learned there on the world's nuclear future and threats in the region. a couple of highlights from the president's remarks. he told north korea it will achieve nothing by threats and provocation. the president said that if north korea goes ahead with the missile launch it will deepen their isolation and damage relations, as well. mr. obama said south korea and the u.s. will deal sternly with any north korean provocations. he said bad behavior will not be rewarded. we'll have much more on this when cnn weekend early starts in just one minute.
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developments in the trayvon martin story as one group puts out a bounty on trayvon's killer. >> at that point they need to charge him. >> we'll tell you what the new black panthers are demanding and how much they are offering for zimmerman's quote capture. plus the future of your health care goes to the supreme court in our main bar/sidebar story you're watching weekend early start where news doesn't take the weekend off. in other news now dick cheney is in a virginia hospital where he is recovering from heart transplant surgery. the 71-year-old former vice president had been on a transplant list for more than 20 months. let's bring in athena jones outside cheney's hospital. good morning to you. give us an update, what is his condition right now? >> good morning, well, the latest we have is from the
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statement that his office put out last night saying that talking about this donor that he waited more than 20 months for this heart as you mentioned and the statement said although the former vice president and his family don't know the identity of the donor, they will be forever grateful for this life-saving gift. i should also mention that the presidential candidate newt gingrich who is friends with cheney and lives not far away put out a statement last night saying in part vice president cheney is in our thoughts and prayers tonight as he recovers from surgery. callista and i hope his recovery is peaceful. i've spoken with the hospital spokes people. there are no briefings scheduled but could change at any minute. >> athena, we've heard for years about dick cheney's heart troubles. can you just give us a brief history of what he's been through and why he needed this? >> reporter: absolutely. cheney has a long history of heart problems. he's had five heart attacks
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starting back in 1978 when he was just 37 years old. we know that back in 2001 he had a pacemaker implanted and he was also hospitalized more recently in june of 2010 when he had what's called a left ventricular assist device implanted. these lvads as they're called are common precursers to a heart transplant. they help the heart pump but meant as a temporary bridge/fix so those are just two of the many surgeries and issues he's had over the year, randi. >> any word on when he might leave the hospital? >> reporter: unclear at this point. from what we can tell in terms of our research on heart transplants and the recovery time it takes up to several weeks, of course, you know, according to the international heart and lung transplant association cheney at 71 is on the upper end of heart transplant recipient, the vast majority of people who get transplant all over the world are in their 50s and s
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certainly his age could be a factor in the recovery time, randi. >> all right. athena jones for us, thank you very much. rick santorum's campaign is walking with a little swagger today. louisiana marks the 11th state won by santorum and the third southern state this month. gop presidential front-runner mitt romney leaves it with a consolation prize. a handful of delegates. joe johns has more from new orleans. >> reporter: randi, rick santorum and first place, mitt romney in second and the louisiana primary. louisiana is one of those states that really hasn't mattered much in republican primary politics in decades, so it was a novelty to many of the voters here to have all four candidates on the ground in their state courting them and asking for their votes. we saw unusual things as we moved across this state. very small venues with just a dozen or a couple dozen seats and a row of television cameras. but one of the things that was
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pretty common in this state as in many of the other states was the robo calls. the calls from people asking for votes as we moved toward the primary vote. in this case the most interesting robo call we heard about was the one from hank williams, the recording artist in favor of, in support of rick santorum. turnout here was thought to be low because the voters really were not able to have the time with these candidates to develop a strong connection and connection perhaps the most important word of the night. mitt romney, the national front-runner unable to develop that connection once again with southern voters that has denied him a win in southern states except for florida. the most important thing of all, really is the delegate count. louisiana has 46 delegates, 20 of those to be awarded after primary night, the rest to be awarded between now and june in a caucus and a convention.
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randi, back to you. >> thank you, joe. as joe said the delegates still have to be sorted out. santorum gets 8, romney, a, the rest will stay uncommitted until the state's republican convention. another big story we're following today. president obama's visit to a major u.s. ally, south korea. you saw the president speak live right here on cnn just minutes ago, he underscored the u.s. stand shoulder to shoulder with seoul against any aggression by north korea. this hour he's attending a dinner with south korean president lee myung-bak. mr. obama also made his first ever visit to the heavily fortified demilitarized zone that divides the korean peninsula meeting with u.s. troops there. another big focus of his trip, an international nuclear summit. paula hancocks joins us from the capital of seoul. paula, what were some of the highlights from the remarks that president obama made as well as the south korean president? >> reporter: well, rang di, what we saw and what we were actually
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expecting was the fact they both stood next to each other and said there was a consensus between them that north korea was in direct violation of u.n. security council resolutions of promises that it had already made to the united states just a few weeks ago that it wouldn't carry out nuclear tests or missile tests and it was also going against its own commitment, so this is what we were expecting both sides condemning north korea saying that this missile launch, this satellite launch should not go ahead. now, one interesting thing was many of the questions were asking what will you do if they do go ahead with this missile launch, what are the consequences. they didn't have an exact answer for that. there was a suggestion there could be further security council resolutions for the sanctions, but neither president was willing to go that far. mr. obama said it would deepen the isolation of north korea. it would also damage further relations and seriously undermine its relations with its neighbors, but there was no
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specifics at this point. mr. obama also said it was a missed opportunity. he was hoping that north korea would take a different path. the fact that they were talking to the united states, the fact there was a deal, they hoped they would be taking a different path but it is a missed opportunity according to mr. obama. another interesting thing i heard was obviously all the world wants to get these u.n. weapons inspectors into north korea. mr. obama said it would be difficult at this time of friction. randi? >> paula hancock, thank you very much for the latest on that and coming up in our main bar story, the health care bill is going to the supreme court tomorrow. we'll explain what's at stake for you. we'll be right back. thanks. you. these clothes are too big, so i'm donating them. how'd you do it? eating right -- whole grain. [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multi-grain cheerios -- 5 whole grains, 110 calories. creamy, dreamy peanut butter taste
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welcome back, everyone. now for the main bar, our big story we investigate from all angles to give you some context and analysis. today it is the health care reform law that goes to the supreme court tomorrow. senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen breaks down the law and tells us what could go away if it is struck down. >> reporter: in 2009 when the law was being debated pretty much everyone agreed that this country had a problem. there were way too many uninsured people. by some counts 49 million uninsured americans, so everyone agreed something had to be done. but everyone disagreed about what had to be done. what obama came up with is a rule that says everyone has to have insurance and you can get it through your employer. can you get it through the private market. you can get it in a variety of ways but everyone has to have insurance. when people don't have insurance, they're really in a
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terrible pick whl they get sick. imagine you don't have insurance and get hit by a car/get cancer how will you pay for that? not only are you in trouble but the rest of us are in trouble. if you don't have insurance and get hit by a car the rest of us are paying for you to get care. it comes out of our tax money, our insurance premiums. we all end up taking care of the uninsured. the health care plan was passed two years ago and implemented in a series of stages, some quickly and other parts don't happen for a couple of years. health care reform has already made it illegal for insurance companies to say no to a child with a pre-existing condition. before health care reform, insurance companies would often tell children with pre-existing conditions, no, sorry, we don't want to insure you because it's expensive to insure someone with a serious condition and insurance companies have been
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told no more limits on lifetime benefits. have you 5 million and when you hit that, that's it and you can't have any more care. health care reform law said you can't do that anymore. there are no more lifetime limbs. motion people never even meet this cap but if you have a serious illness you can meet it easily. health care reform allows children to stay on their parents' insurance until they're 26. one of the things that will happen in the future because of health care reform is insurance companies will have to accept adults with pre-existing conditions. they can't say no to you just because let's say you have asthma or you have cancer or heart disease. >> and throughout the morning we'll have sidebars that dig deeper into this week's hearings and talk to one state attorney general who will be front and center at the supreme court as the hearings kick off and explain why he thinks the federal government is overstepping its role in
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and stayed in his car and he shouldn't have took trayvon's life. no, we're not inciting violence, we're doing what american citizens have been doing for many, many years. we're doing a citizen arrest. >> the city of sanford is calling for calm. officials issuing this statement. it reads in part, attempts by civilians to take any person into custody may result in criminal charges or unnecessary violence. george zimmerman has not been arrested or charged. meanwhile, an attorney for trayvon martin's family say they will file a civil lawsuit against the homeowners association. lawyer daryl parks claims there is evidence that the neighborhood association in twin lakes where he was killed told its residents to call zimmerman if they could not contact police. but saw suspicious activity. parks also believes it will be difficult to bring federal hate crime charges against zimmerman saying prosecution at the state level is more likely. voters in louisiana have spoken but is their message clear? we'll delve into a little presidential politics coming up.
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to politics now and louisiana is in the books. rick santorum won last night's primary. mitt romney came in second so romney's win in florida is his lone bright spot in the south while santorum adds to his win total. joining me now is patricia murphy contributor to "the daily beast." what happened in louisiana. do the results tell us anything we didn't know before? >> it confirms it that rick santorum does well in southern state, in conservative states and states with high evangelical
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populations. 71% of louisianians consider themselves very conservative. tailor made for rick santorum. what it tells us also he is consistently winning in places we expect him to and needs to change the dynamic and expand his base or his donors or supporters will start to hop off his bandwagon. when you look at louisiana, will it go gop regardless of who the nominee is? >> i would say most of the south will go gop no matter who it is and most republican voters i've talked to even if they're out for newt gingrich or rick santorum, the second question you ask, well, would you vote for mitt romney if he was on the ticket, if he was the nominee, they said, oh, sure, yeah, i'd vote for him. i like these other guys. i really don't like barack obama so no republican has really lost the deep south since 1976 with jimmy carter so really no matter how well santorum does in the deep south it kind of doesn't matter as much because we know any republican nominee is going to do very well down there regardless.
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>> how do you think he'll do when he goes to states that aren't in the south, out of his comfort zone. will this work to his advantage, can he pull it off? already talking about the brokered convention. >> yes, his goal is to stop romney from winning at this point but when you go to a convention you need to convince delegates i can win this and be the best nominee. he has to start winning states we don't expect him to. we have wisconsin coming up. that would be a big opportunity. pennsylvania his own state is coming up and then a big swath in the northeast. if romney dominates the northeast the way we expect him to he'll walk away from this. he basically already has -- he wasn't even in louisiana last night, he was in california watching a movie so, you know, romney is acting like he's already got this wrapped up and rick santorum is trying to convince the world it's not over yet. >> well, he's working pretty hard at that. let's talk about health care because the hearings start tomorrow in d.c., the supreme court will take a look at whether or not the mandate should stand and the whole health care law should stand. the president is out of town.
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>> yes. >> is that a good move to be out of town during such a critical hearing on his major piece of legislation. >> i think it is. first of all he wants to show he is going about his business and show i've already taken care of health care. i already achieved that piece and moving on and continuing to be presidential meeting with world leaders. we just saw him conducting a press conference. that's an important visual for people to see. he also does not want to appear to be to influence the supreme court's decision. if he were in washington the only question he would get right now would be about the supreme court decision so he wants to take himself out of this, let it look as if the supreme court is doing its business by itself. i think it's smart to be far away from this. >> about as far away as he can get. >> not a bad move. >> patricia, nice to see you. thank you very much. the pope brings a message of peace to mexico. tens of thousands of the faithful expected at a huge open air mass but will controversy overshadow it? we'll take you live to mexico next.
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many people in mexico have waited years for what will happen today. at noon pope benedict xvi will preside over a huge open air mass in north central mexico. crowds have been pouring into the streets to greet him during his visit. look at that there. today's mass will take place in the shadow of a tower iing chri the king monument. today's mass expected to be a highlight of the pope's visit. >> reporter: this is definitely the main event of this visit by pope benedict xvi, randi. the church has distributed 350,000 tickets for this mass, however, as many as 500,000 people are expected to attend according to some estimates. this is the first time pope benedict xvi visit latin america and was in brazil in 2007 and in
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the united states in 2008. a bit of a controversy here in mexico yesterday when three mexican authors presented a book that speaks about alleged cases of cover-up of sexual abuse of minors by the vatican. the authors of the book say they obtained documents leaked by the vatican and they're basing the book on that. the main subject of the book is a mexican priest who was influential at the vatican and so, of course, that was the same day that the pope spoke to a group of children here in the city of leone and many people were really not expecting something like this to happen, but, again, the main focus is today's mass for hundreds of thousands of people here in mexico. >> rafael romo, thank you very much. dick cheney admitted to a virginia hospital. we'll tell you why and an update on the former vice president's condition. plus, rowland martin is demanding justice for trayvon martin.
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with roland martin he tells me he still feels, even himself continue to be victims of racial injustice. he demands justice for trayvon martin. >> here was a young man, 17 years old, wants to be an airplane pilot on the phone with his girlfriend, living in a gated community, doing the right thing, not in trouble and he ends up dead. and what it says is wait a minute, how in the world can you do all the right things, how can you raise your child the right way, how can you stay out of trouble and someone still cast a suspicious eye on you and you end up dead? and this is the concern that we all have in terms of being black, driving while black, walking while black that somebody can have a stereotype in their mind and still take you out and that's really what was driving this whole issue. >> well, you tweeted about this plenty this week but you tweeted out this to miami's nba team saying until george zimmerman is
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arrested every nba player should wear a hoodie during player introductions to stand up for trayvon martin and, roland, you got attention. miami heat's team responded and lebron tweeted this picture of his teammates paying their respects. and he also actually tweeted in response to your tweet saying we are trayvon martin's and then he said stereotyped we want justice as some hashtags on twitter. why have you been so vocal about this personally? >> because when we talk about -- because here's -- at the end of the day, here's the problem, black people are tired of having to accommodate bigotry or racism or stereotypes so when geraldo made his comment -- frankly, wooary tired of it. in corporate america there are trayvon martin steers where we have to act a certain way and dress a certain way because of what somebody else may think. african-americans don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. all we get is the doubt.
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and so i have seen it in my own life where somebody will say something and they'll say, oh, that's suspicious so we deal with the code works in the workplace. so just like when george zimmerman called 911 and called him suspicious, same thing happens in corporate america. and so at some point black folks said we are sick and tired of being sick and tired. and this is exactly what it speaks to. i've been speaking out for years on black on black violence and speaking out on this issue, as well and that's what we're simply saying. enough with saying it was the hoodie, enough with saying it was your pair of pants, no, we have to deal with the mind-set of people who have stereotypes. >> roland martin, great to have you on this morning. >> thank you much. >> thank you. from cnn center this is cnn sunday morning. hello, everyone. i'm randi kaye. explosive new developments in the trayvon martin story. >> when we get

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